Marie Diefenbach-Wilke
©Marie Die­fen­bach-Wilke
Student Grant
Uni­ver­si­tät BonnIm­mun­bio­lo­gie

Marie Diefenbach-Wilke

“Set­backs en­cou­ra­ge me because they can open the way to un­ex­pec­ted dis­co­ve­ries.”

Marie Die­fen­bach was awarded a Student Grant by Wübben Stif­tung Wis­sen­schaft in 2024/25 and is now pur­suing her PhD on the de­ve­lop­men­tal biology of the immune system. Set­backs have not wea­ke­ned her passion for re­se­arch. Here, she shares her goals and her current passion: ma­cro­pha­ges.

Ma­cro­pha­ges always tend to get over­loo­ked a little. These are the cells in our innate immune system that ingest pa­tho­gens. They in­ter­vene right at the start of ill­nes­ses and play an im­portant role in the de­ve­lop­ment of the embryo. Not much has been known about ma­cro­pha­ges until now – which is exactly why I find them so ex­ci­ting. 

For my master’s dis­ser­ta­ti­on, I in­ves­ti­ga­ted which ma­cro­pha­ges are active in the body when someone is in­fec­ted with malaria, a topic that hadn’t been re­se­ar­ched at all until then. Another thing that makes ma­cro­pha­ges ex­ci­ting is that they can turn against us – for example by pro­mo­ting a brain tumor instead of figh­t­ing it. I ex­ami­ned this during my in­ternship at the Ne­ther­lands Cancer In­sti­tu­te. Most of my ex­pe­ri­ments went wrong. In the end, though, I did succeed in stop­ping the ma­cro­pha­ges from in­ge­sting par­ti­cu­lar fats that could other­wi­se fight the tumor. 

Set­backs en­cou­ra­ge me because they can open the way to un­ex­pec­ted dis­co­ve­ries. I had to be very di­sci­pli­ned as a kid when I was figure skating. Often when you’re skating, the only thing that helps is to get back up again and carry on. You always have to try to un­der­stand why so­me­thing has gone wrong and then give it another go.

Marie Diefenbach-Wilke

I’m mainly con­cer­ned with fun­da­men­tal re­se­arch. When people ask me why I’m not in­te­rested in di­rec­t­ly curing di­sea­ses like malaria, I tell them we don’t know enough about the immune re­spon­se for that yet. I would love to develop cures, but first of all you have to un­der­stand a disease’s effects. This can then so­me­ti­mes help with de­ve­lo­ping a cure – for in­stan­ce by laying the basis for new im­mu­no­the­ra­pies.  

It’s im­portant to un­der­stand the role ma­cro­pha­ges play because they are crucial, re­gu­lato­ry com­pon­ents of the immune system. With the latest se­quen­cing methods and high-through­put tech­ni­ques, you can look at the system as a whole and observe what changes when you adjust a par­ti­cu­lar part of the me­cha­nism. It’s es­sen­ti­al to work with bio­in­for­ma­ti­ci­ans and other spe­cia­lists if you want to do this. 

Of course, new ques­ti­ons keep coming up all the time. Unknown pa­tho­gens, say, or the chal­len­ges to the immune system caused by high-salt diets and mi­cro­plastics. Ma­cro­pha­ges are able to ingest mi­cro­plastics, but not break them down; these sub­s­tan­ces stay in the human body. Mi­cro­plastics may also satiate ma­cro­pha­ges, which then can’t defend so well against other pa­tho­gens.
 

My aim is to un­der­stand the foun­da­ti­ons of the immune system so well that we can use the­ra­pies in more tar­ge­ted ways, meaning they only attack the cells that really pose a danger.

Marie Diefenbach-Wilke

For my PhD thesis, I will be in­ves­ti­ga­ting whether a very high-salt diet in­flu­en­ces ma­cro­pha­ge ac­tivi­ty in the gut and liver, and whether there are any changes to the mi­cro­bio­me or in­tes­ti­nal per­mea­bi­li­ty. At the same time, I also want to factor in sex dif­fe­ren­ces. Up until now, ques­ti­ons like this have often only been re­se­ar­ched on men because it’s simply easier to do, given they don’t ex­pe­ri­ence hor­mo­nal fluc­tua­ti­ons due to the mens­tru­al cycle for example.

There’s so much that still hasn’t been re­se­ar­ched, you can’t even imagine all the things there are left to dis­co­ver. My aim is to un­der­stand the foun­da­ti­ons of the immune system so well that we can use the­ra­pies in more tar­ge­ted ways, meaning they only attack the cells that really pose a danger. In the future, I hope we’ll be in a po­si­ti­on to dia­gno­se immune di­sea­ses within a few days, iden­ti­fy the immune cells that are in­vol­ved, and then quickly offer per­so­na­li­zed im­mu­no­the­ra­py. 

Marie Diefenbach-Wilke
©Marie Die­fen­bach-Wilke

Marie Die­fen­bach-Wilke is stu­dy­ing for a PhD under Elvira Mass in the De­part­ment of De­ve­lop­men­tal Biology of the Immune System at the Uni­ver­si­ty of Bonn Life & Medical Sci­en­ces In­sti­tu­te (LIMES). She studied biology at Kiel Uni­ver­si­ty and biology and im­muno­bio­lo­gy at the Uni­ver­si­ty of Bonn. She was an intern at the Ne­ther­lands Cancer In­sti­tu­te, working on tumor biology and im­mu­no­lo­gy, and is one of the co-leads for the Com­mu­ni­ca­ti­ons Working Group of the Young Eu­ropean Fe­de­ra­ti­on of Im­mu­no­lo­gi­cal Sci­en­ces (yEFIS). Marie Die­fen­bach-Wilke was awarded a Student Grant by Wübben Stif­tung Wis­sen­schaft in 2024/25. 

Curious Minds Ques­ti­onn­aire

“Working tog­e­ther with ma­chi­nes”

In our Curious Minds series, we in­tro­du­ce former Wübben Stif­tung student grant re­ci­pi­ents who are boldly forging their own paths.

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Who encouraged your curiosity the most?

During my master’s thesis I had an amazing su­per­vi­sor, Prof. Elvira Mass, who is now my PhD su­per­vi­sor as well. All the way through my master’s thesis she trusted me to try out all sorts of methods – re­gard­less whether I had ever used them before. This gave me a whole new level of con­fi­dence, and I wanted to un­der­stand every tiny little detail because she allowed me to be in charge and push myself to my limits. 

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What do you wish you had known before you started your studies?

I wish I had known there were so many options – after school it took some time to broaden my ho­ri­zons as we had only been taught the “stan­dard” sub­jec­ts at school, but not about po­ten­ti­al jobs we weren’t already fa­mi­li­ar with.

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What unexpected paths have you taken during your studies?

Con­ti­nuing from the last ques­ti­on, this was why I started off trai­ning to become a teacher (in a very dif­fe­rent field, German & phi­lo­so­phy). A tutor once said you should study what you want to read about all day. I always had a strong in­te­rest in me­di­ci­ne, so I studied biology, then later focused on human biology because I didn’t have any in-depth know­ledge of im­mu­no­lo­gy. In my fifth se­mes­ter, I heard about an elec­tive course in im­mu­no­lo­gy, but I didn’t get on it at first because places were limited due to the pan­de­mic. I asked if I could join without being graded – and got ac­cep­ted. That’s when I fell in love with im­mu­no­lo­gy. After my gra­dua­ti­on, I moved to Bonn to do a master’s degree in im­mu­no­lo­gy. 

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What do you hope science will look like in the future?

I hope science will be even more col­la­bo­ra­ti­ve – I dream of a world where sci­en­tists from many dif­fe­rent fields come tog­e­ther to tackle pro­blems hu­ma­ni­ty is facing. Apart from that, I hope we can also work tog­e­ther even more with ma­chi­nes, making it pos­si­ble to analyze huge da­ta­sets. 

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What was the last topic that made you forget the time?

During my in­ternship at the Ne­ther­lands Cancer In­sti­tu­te in Ams­ter­dam, I was re­se­ar­ching glio­blas­to­ma, which is a type of brain cancer that’s almost always ter­mi­nal. I found it very in­te­res­ting how ma­cro­pha­ges play a pivotal role in this type of disease, often as the “bad guys”. I was also very touched that pa­ti­ents facing death are still very kind and appre­cia­te all the time they have left.